By Annette Benedetti, sex educator, intimacy coach, and host of the Talk Sex with Annette podcast
We talk about blow jobs like they’re a performance, like there’s a right way and a wrong way and some secret move you’re supposed to magically know. The truth is, most blow job advice just makes people anxious, whether you’re giving or receiving. So let’s slow it down (or heat it up) and talk about how to give a blow job with confidence, the real technique, no porn scripts, just what actually makes oral feel incredible.
For this one I brought in Elle and V, hosts of Girls Gone Deep, who call deep throating and cock worship their sexual superpowers. They teach curiosity and enthusiasm over performance, which is exactly the right way in.
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Table of Contents
Where Confidence Actually Comes From
Here’s the thing nobody says: being good at blow jobs isn’t about a secret move, it’s about confidence, and confidence comes from experience, curiosity, and permission to not be perfect. If you don’t feel confident, that’s not a character flaw, it’s just a signal you haven’t had the information or the reps yet. The techniques below are the reps. And the single biggest confidence unlock is realizing that great oral isn’t a flawless performance, it’s genuine enthusiasm plus a willingness to communicate.
The Number One Blow Job Tip: Enthusiasm
Ask anyone, of any gender, what makes oral great, and the answer is almost never a specific technique. It’s enthusiasm. People can feel when you’re not into it, and they can feel when you are. When you genuinely love what you’re doing, that energy IS the technique.
You show enthusiasm three ways: sound, movement, and touch. Noises and humming while he’s in your mouth (the vibration feels good too). Using your hands everywhere, not just on his cock, gripping his thighs, his ass, pulling him into you. And it should be authentic, not porn-star performance. Real passion is often messy, guttural, even a little ugly, and that’s exactly what makes it land. If you’re worried about sounding “right,” stop, the imperfect sounds are the hot ones.

Use Lots of Spit (Why Messy Blow Jobs Get Rave Reviews)
A wet, slobbery blow job gets praised for a reason. Lots of spit signals enthusiasm, the way your mouth waters for a delicious meal, and it makes everything glide and feel better. Think of it like licking an ice cream cone that’s melting fast: you get your whole mouth on it, you don’t stop to tidy up.
If spit isn’t your thing or you want flavor, coconut oil is a great natural alternative that tastes good and doubles as a hand-job lube. But know that most receivers actually prefer saliva-heavy play over squirting on lube. Keep water nearby to wet your palate when your mouth dries out, and know that a little gagging brings up more saliva, which is part of why it can help rather than hurt.
The Pepper Grinder and Other Hand Techniques
Your mouth is only part of the toolkit. Your hands should almost always be involved, and one technique gets specific rave reviews: the pepper grinder (a cousin of the “Gluck Gluck 9000”). You put one or two hands at the base of the shaft and twist them in opposite directions, like grinding fresh pepper, while your mouth works the head. It’s a spice-it-up move, and for some men it’s intense, so check in.
Other hand moves to build variety: follow your mouth with your hand so the shaft always feels stimulated even when your mouth is shallow, one hand on the shaft while the other gently plays with the balls (ask first, sensitivity varies), and a simple hand-job stroke while you take a breath and lick the spit dripping down. The point is a rotating menu, mouth, hands, licking, so it never goes flat.
Vary Your Rhythm (This Is the Opposite of Oral for Women)
This is a crucial difference most people get backwards. When I teach how to give a woman an orgasm, the rule is find a rhythm and hold it, because switching it up interrupts her climb. With a penis, it’s often the reverse: the same motion over and over can make him finish before you want him to. So to draw it out, you deliberately switch it up. Every change gives his nervous system a little reset.
So the flow looks like: shallow bobbing on the head with lots of tongue, deep, off for a hand job and some licking, back to the head, deep again. Variety is what keeps him on the edge instead of over it. Then, when you’re ready to finish him, you do the opposite, lock into one steady rhythm, listen to his breath and sounds, and take him over.
Don’t Forget the Frenulum
The frenulum, where the head of the penis meets the shaft on the underside, is the most sensitive spot there is. Concentrated tongue attention right there is one of the highest-impact things you can do. When in doubt, bring your tongue back to the frenulum.
What Is Cock Warming?
Cock warming is one of the most overlooked, intimate things you can do, and it’s not about getting him off at all. You simply take the penis into your mouth and hold it there, still. No bobbing, no tongue movement, no goal. You just let him feel the warmth and wetness of your mouth while you both stay present.
It can be soft and devotional, or it can be a power-play dynamic (a submissive holding their dominant’s cock in their mouth, staying still on command). Interestingly, it’s often done while he’s soft, and there’s a reason that can feel amazing: when the penis is flaccid, the nerve endings sit closer together, so the sensation of warmth can be more concentrated and different than when he’s erect. It may grow, it may not, and neither is the point. Cock warming is about connection, presence, and letting him luxuriate, a beautiful way to start a blow job slowly or a gentle, intimate act all on its own.

How to Give a Blow Job to a Soft or Semi-Hard Penis
You don’t need an erection to start, and you can help bring one on. One technique: grip the base with one hand, top and bottom, almost pinching, which slows blood from leaving and helps it stay in the cock. Hold the base while you stroke the top, and you draw more blood (and more sensation) into the area. Combine that with cock warming, and you have a patient, pressure-free way to build him up, which is especially valuable if he deals with erectile pressure or performance anxiety, because there’s zero expectation baked into it.
How to Deep Throat (and Why It’s Completely Optional)
First, the most important thing: deep throating is NOT the goal, and not a requirement for great oral. Plenty of people love blow jobs without it. Some in your mouth and the rest in your hand, with enthusiasm and good rhythm, is more than enough. If deep throating feels like pressure, skip it entirely.
If you do want to learn it, here’s the technique that works: when you feel yourself about to gag, actively swallow. Swallowing switches the muscular reflex in your throat and helps you bypass the gag. Over time you can effectively train your gag reflex to be less reactive. Other people distract the reflex instead, tucking a thumb into a fist and squeezing it, or curling their toes, to move their focus elsewhere in the body (the same trick some people use at the dentist).
A few deep-throat realities: know your limit, and stop, switch positions, or slow down when it’s too much. Once you start gagging a lot, the reflex gets more sensitive, so pushing past exhaustion is how accidents happen. And position matters, an upward-curving penis is much easier to take deep in 69 or lying back with your head off the edge of the bed, because it follows the natural curve of your throat. Deep throating is a skill you build gradually, not a test you pass.
Circumcised vs Uncircumcised: What to Do With Foreskin
A lot of people freeze up with an uncircumcised penis, and there’s no need to. It’s simply the natural state. Gently pull the foreskin back to expose the head, sometimes it retracts on its own, then use it: the foreskin works like a built-in sleeve you can glide up and down the shaft while you suck, almost like built-in lubrication. Many people find uncircumcised partners easier to give oral to for exactly this reason. If you’re ever unsure, ask in the moment, a quick “is this good?” is sexy, not awkward, and it keeps you connected.
The Best Blow Job Positions
Every penis is shaped and curved differently, and every position feels different on your body, which gets a real workout (neck, jaw, arms, back). Match the position to his anatomy and your comfort:
He sits elevated on the edge of the bed while you kneel in front, far easier on your neck than hunching over. He lies with his legs off the side of the bed so you can be below him without straining. You lie on your back with your head off the edge of the bed and him standing or kneeling over you, great for a straighter throat line. And 69, which follows the natural curve of your mouth and throat (ideal for an upward-curving penis) and lets you both receive at once. Don’t be afraid to pause and adjust, “scoot up,” “tuck a pillow under you,” is part of good oral, not an interruption.
Pleasure Yourself While You Give
One of the best-kept tips: keep a vibrator or wand on your own clit while you go down on him. It juices you up, keeps you genuinely into it, and your own real pleasure feeds the whole thing, those authentic moans travel straight into what your mouth is doing. Sit on a wand so it stays put and both your hands stay free. This is also the answer to the orgasm-gap worry (“what about me?”), you’re not just giving, you’re getting off too.

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The Energetic Orgasm: What’s In It for the Giver
If you’ve ever wondered why some people are so eager to give, here’s the secret: giving can be its own kind of climax. Many givers describe an energetic or emotional orgasm, a deep, satisfying charge that comes from being the one in control of someone else’s pleasure, with no physical climax required. If you approach a blow job as “making love to the cock,” fully present, fully into it, thinking “if this were mine, what would I want?”, the giving itself becomes the payoff. That reframe, from chore to gift you enjoy giving, is where confidence and pleasure both come from.
Etiquette for the Receiver
Great oral is a two-way street. If you’re on the receiving end:
Announce when you’re close. A simple “I’m getting close” lets your partner decide what they want, keep going, switch to sex, or redirect where you finish. “Can I come in your mouth?” or “Where can I come?” is the respectful ask, and it can be hot dirty talk, not a mood-killer.
Be clean. Wash up beforehand, or be gracious about a quick rinse if your partner asks. Hygiene is basic courtesy.
Don’t shove. Surprise-pushing someone’s head down is a turn-off and a boundary crossing for many givers. That’s the line between a blow job (the giver is in control, it’s their show) and face fucking (a completely different, pre-negotiated dynamic). Some people love being “used” that way, but only when it’s discussed first. If it happens and you don’t like it, gently move their hand to your body instead, or say so.
Make noise or give direction. Givers can’t read your mind. Sounds, breath, and simple yes/no answers (“faster?” “harder?”) tell them they’re on the right track.
Start Here Tonight: Cock Worship as a Confidence Builder
If confidence is what you’re missing, start with zero pressure to perform: cock worship. Touch it, look at it up close, knead his thighs like bread dough, feel the skin, get genuinely curious. It doesn’t have to lead to a blow job at all, it’s a way to get to know his body and let him feel seen. Then, next time, challenge yourself to try one new thing, and talk about it before (what does he like?), during (yes/no questions), and after (what worked, what didn’t). That after-debrief is where you actually learn what he loves, and it turns the whole thing into a fun, low-pressure date instead of a performance. Read my full guide to cock worship here.
Toys That Level Up Oral and Solo Play
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Arcwave Voy — Best compact stroker for edging
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Blowmotion Warming Vibrating Masturbator — Best warming, cock-warming-style feel
A compact silicone head-masturbator that warms to body temperature and wraps the head like a warm mouth, with 6 vibration patterns. It mimics that frenulum-focused, oral warmth, and it’s great for partner-controlled foreplay. Available at Lovehoney.
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Keep Learning
Read, watch, and listen to my Guide to How to Worship a Cock
Read, watch, and listen to my guide to How to Sit on a Face & How to Give Good Face Sitting
Read, watch, and listen to 20 Ways to Touch a Clit
Frequently Asked Questions
How do you give a blow job with confidence?
Confidence comes from experience, curiosity, and dropping the need to be perfect. Focus on genuine enthusiasm over technique, communicate with simple yes/no questions, and remember that messy, authentic oral beats a polished performance every time.
How do you give good head?
Enthusiasm first, then variety: mix mouth, hands (like the pepper-grinder twist), licking, and ball play, keep lots of spit going, focus tongue attention on the frenulum, and switch up your rhythm to draw it out. Communication and genuine energy matter more than any single move.
What is cock warming?
Cock warming is holding the penis still in your mouth with no movement and no goal, letting your partner feel the warmth and wetness. It’s an intimate, pressure-free act often done while he’s soft, and it can be devotional or part of a power-play dynamic.
How do you deep throat without gagging?
When you feel the gag reflex, actively swallow, it switches the throat’s muscular reflex and helps you past it. Some people also distract the reflex by squeezing a thumb or curling their toes. Build up slowly, know your limit, and remember deep throating is optional.
How do you give a blow job to an uncircumcised penis?
Gently pull the foreskin back to expose the head, then use the foreskin as a built-in sleeve you can glide along the shaft while you suck. It even acts like natural lubrication. When unsure, just ask in the moment.
What are the best blow job positions?
Kneeling in front of a seated, elevated partner is easiest on your neck. Lying on your back with your head off the edge of the bed straightens your throat, and 69 is ideal for an upward-curving penis and lets you both receive at once.
Should you vary your rhythm during a blow job?
Yes. Unlike oral for women, where a steady rhythm helps her climax, varying your rhythm on a penis keeps him from finishing too soon. Switch it up to draw it out, then settle into a steady rhythm when you’re ready for him to finish.
Full How to Give a Good Blow Job Transcript
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Annette: Today’s Talk Sex with Annette topic is how to give a blow job that actually feels incredible, with Girls Gone Deep. We talk about blow jobs like they’re a performance, like there’s a right way and a wrong way and some secret move you’re supposed to magically know. But most of the advice out there doesn’t actually make oral feel better, it makes people anxious, whether you’re giving or receiving. So today we’re slowing it down, or heating it up, not to give you porn scripts, but real direction from people who love to give what I can only assume are really good blow jobs.
I’m joined by Elle and V, hosts of Girls Gone Deep, a podcast that explores dating, intimacy, sexuality, and personal growth through a sex-positive, shame-free lens. What I love about their work is they don’t teach scripts or pressure people into doing it “right.” They focus on curiosity, embodiment, communication, and letting pleasure be something you experience, not perform. Elle and V, introduce yourselves.
Elle: I’m Elle. I’m in an ENM relationship, open with a husband, married about 12 years, in the lifestyle about the same. I’m excited to talk about my favorite thing in the world, giving blow jobs and cock worship. I’m such a giver.
V: I’m V, and I’m excited to talk about what we call our sexual superpowers. We love deep throating, we love cock worship. I’ve been in the ethically non-monogamous and kink scene for about six years, and I love using sex as a tool for self-growth and fun.
Annette: I tend to talk about pussy a lot, and I’ve got two women who are eager and excited about talking about dicks. By the end of this you’ll get great tips on giving, and if you’re the receiver, tips on being a good receiver too. So let’s dive in.
I’ll be honest, as a pansexual woman I feel confident pleasuring a vulva, but when it comes to cocks, specifically blow jobs, I don’t feel like the expert, because I don’t have one. So I want to start here: where does your confidence come from?
Elle: Great question. I’m bisexual but started playing with men first, so a lot of my experience is there. I became confident because I do it in almost 98% of my encounters. Oral is a great way to slow things down, and I’m a giver. And it’s tuning into your partner: how are they responding, how are they breathing? I’ve learned who likes what. In the moment I’ll ask, “Do you like that? What do you want more of?” It’s attunement, plus a lot of practice and different partners. Pleasing them gets me off, that compersion.
V: I’ll echo that, and add enthusiasm, which is actually my number one tip. I’ve gotten a lot of feedback that my oral is really good, and when I dig into why, the thing said across the board is enthusiasm. When we ask people on our podcast, women and men, what makes good oral, everyone just wants enthusiasm about their genitals. You can feel when someone’s not into it. When I’m into it, I’m one with it, loving it. Experience and feedback gave me my confidence.
Annette: How do you show enthusiasm?
V: Noises that show enthusiasm while it’s in my mouth, and a lot of spit. The slobbering, the energy behind it. And it doesn’t have to be fast and hard, you can show enthusiasm with slowness too. It’s the energy behind it.
Elle: Definitely noises, the humming sound, the “mm.” The speed and energy. And using your hands in other ways, if he’s standing, grab his thighs or behind and push him into you, squeeze him. You’re not just using your mouth. A lot of noise and a lot of touching and grabbing all over, not just the genitals.
Annette: And the noises are authentic, right? Real passion doesn’t always sound like porn. It can be animalistic, guttural, even a little ugly.
Elle: Those are the best, that’s how you know it’s authentic, when it doesn’t sound perfect. An authentic moan, or gagging, gurgling, the spit hitting it. There are embarrassing things that happen, but you don’t want to stop to adjust. As long as they’re enjoying it and you’re enjoying giving it, that’s all that matters. I think of it like licking a delicious ice cream cone that’s melting fast, you put your whole mouth on it and devour it.
V: The one thing I mentioned, lack of confidence, comes down to experience. The more you have, the more confident you feel. Research beforehand helps too, listen to a podcast like this. I got my first techniques from Call Her Daddy, the “Gluck Gluck 9000,” the twisting of the hands on the dick. Call it the pepper grinder. You pepper grind it. Ever since I started incorporating that, plus enthusiasm and lots of spit, people say they love messy blow jobs, I got great feedback.
Annette: How do you feel about lube?
Elle: Lube is great, but honestly a lot of men love saliva-heavy play over squirting lube on. Sometimes there’s no lube available, and what lubes taste good enough? I personally love coconut oil as a lube for hand jobs and blow jobs, it adds flavor and it’s clean. But more often than not, it’s mostly spit.
V: I agree, the men I’ve encountered do spit. And keep water nearby, it’s important to wet your palate.
Annette: So to sum up so far: enthusiasm, both hands, the pepper grind, lots of spit and saliva, and a lot of noise. What about variety?
V: A mixture of sucking, hands, ball play, and licking, so you’re not just doing one thing. I’ll put the cock in my mouth with two hands at the base pepper grinding, that can be too much for some men so ask. Then I’ll come out and do a jerking-off hand job while licking the excess spit dripping down, maybe licking the balls, ask about ball play first, some people are very sensitive there. Then go back in, start shallow, bobbing on the head, using my tongue inside my mouth, lots of tongue on the frenulum, that’s where the head and shaft meet, the most sensitive spot. Then go deep. Go deep until you can’t breathe, come out, take a break, hand job, licking, go back in. Keep that cadence.
Annette: Do you keep the same pattern?
Elle: You want variety. Men will come quick if you do the same motion over and over, so you switch it up so they don’t come too soon. Women are different, we love patterns and rhythm to build. Same for men if you want them to come, but if you don’t, switch it up. I approach it like making love to the dick, I’m thinking about them, tuning in. Start slow, roll your tongue around the head, then incorporate a hand following your mouth’s movement. One hand or two, pepper shaker motion, other hand on the balls. Go fast, go slow. When my mouth gets dry, keep water nearby, or start to deep throat, touching the back of your throat brings up more spit even if you gag a little. But I always think, if this were mine, what would I want done to it? I start slow, then fast, then tease, pull the cock out, blow warm air on it, tease with anticipation.
Annette: This is such a learning moment for me. In my how-tos on giving women orgasms, I say find a rhythm and hold it, because switching it up kills her rise. Men’s bodies operate the same way, but the challenge is the opposite: to keep him from coming too quick, you switch it up because it resets his nervous system. And when you’re ready to finish, you set a rhythm, back it with excitement, and take him over.
V: Exactly. When you’re ready, keep a rhythm, listen to his sounds and breath. Some partners don’t make noise, so you can ask them to, so you know what’s happening.
And one thing: a lot of people feel gagging and deep throating is a goal. It’s not, and not everyone can do it. As long as you have some in your mouth and the rest in your hand, with rhythm and enthusiasm, you’re absolutely fine. But if you want to learn to deep throat, when you’re taking it deeper and about to gag, actively swallow. It switches the muscular reflex in your throat and makes it easier to bypass the reflex. I’ve effectively trained my gag reflex. I know my limit, and when it’s too much I stop, switch positions, go slower.
Elle: My trick is to distract myself, I tuck my thumb into my fist and squeeze it, the idea of putting focus somewhere else. Someone told me that about the dentist. Sometimes I curl my toes. That puts my brain somewhere else in my body.
Annette: Let’s talk about the difference between a circumcised and an uncircumcised penis.
V: Good call. I had an uncircumcised partner, and he’d tell me how many women didn’t know what to do with the foreskin. So: pull it back so the head is out. Sometimes it does that naturally. I love giving a blow job to someone with foreskin because it’s a sleeve, a pleasure sleeve you can jerk up and down the dick while you suck it, almost built-in lube. Just pull the skin back and use it.
Annette: I’m always surprised people are unsure about uncircumcised penises. That’s the natural state. There’s nothing wrong with it, and there are bonuses, you can use it to improve the experience.
Elle: It makes your job easier. I was one of those women who didn’t know how to play with an uncircumcised penis when I got into this. In the moment I asked, “Does this feel okay?” And that became erotic, “let me show you how.” Looking up and asking, “Is this okay?” and getting a “yes.” So the theme is: if you’re not sure in the moment, it’s okay to ask a quick question.
And another thing: dicks are different sizes and curve different ways, so some positions are uncomfortable. If a man curves upward, that’s not the easiest, so 69 can be better because it follows the natural curve of your mouth and throat, and it’s actually the better position to deep throat in. Think about the shape of their penis and where you are, and make it more comfortable. It’s okay to stop and say, “Can you sit up more? Can you tuck a pillow under you?” It’s a workout, your neck, arms, jaw all get a workout.
V: On positions: think about where you can have your hands free and where it’s easier on your back. I grew up giving blow jobs on my knees hunched over on a bed, using your abs to hold yourself up, it doesn’t feel great. If they’re elevated sitting on the bed and you’re kneeling in front, that feels better. If they lie down, their legs off the side of the bed so you’re below them without straining your back. Or they stand at the side of the bed and you lie on your back with your head off the edge, that’s a good one. And 69.
Annette: I love 69. People act like it’s outdated, but I love the mouth connection, it’s a perfect circle of energy, and you both get pleasure. I can get into it in that position.
Elle: I love a 69 blow job too. You’re both having fun. Whoever said they lose focus when giving, your partner’s probably going through the same thing, so nothing’s perfect, but I love the variety, moments to receive and moments to give.
Annette: Another good point, when I give a blow job, I almost always have a vibrator on myself.
Elle: Yes, I need something happening to me to juice me up and keep me going.
V: I’m usually focused on their pleasure, but that’s a good idea, I’ll stick a wand on my clit and sit down on it so it stays by itself, hands-free, and I can use both hands. It’s nice to pleasure yourself while pleasuring them, and it helps with the “mms.”
Annette: So we’ve covered tips for givers. Let’s talk etiquette for receivers.
Elle: Let’s talk about where to come. It’s appropriate for men, when receiving, to say out loud, “That feels so good, I’m close to coming.” Letting them know it’s approaching. Then the woman can say “come in my mouth,” or wherever, or he can say “if you want to get fucked next, stop, let’s switch.” That gives the giver the decision. So the man should announce when he’s going to come, and then you can have a quick discussion about where. “Can I come in your mouth?” or “Where can I come?” And the giver should be honest and vocal about what she wants.
V: And keep it in scene, dirty talk it. The giver can say, “I want you in my mouth,” or “I want to see you come on my tits,” so it goes where you want. Just pull it out for a second and tell them.
Elle: The next thing is shoving, pushing hands. I don’t like when a guy surprise-shoves my head onto himself, it’s a turn-off and takes me out of the moment. This is my show, I’m giving to you, I want to give it the way I want to. It doesn’t always mean shoving is bad, some people love to be taken and used, but for me shoving switches it from a blow job to face fucking, a totally different energy. A blow job means the giver is in control; face fucking means he’s giving it and she’s receiving. So that should be pre-discussed. If he pushes and you don’t like it, gently grab his hands and move them to your tits or somewhere else, or just say it.
V: I’m with you, and you can say it as a boundary beforehand, “just so you know, I don’t like when my head is pushed down.” Speaking your boundaries clearly makes a safer container to give and receive pleasure.
Annette: Before we go, one piece of advice each: where can someone start tonight to build confidence?
V: Start by just loving your partner’s cock. Give them some cock worship. It doesn’t have to feel like your typical sexual moment. Just look at it, touch it, see what it does, get curious, feel the skin, look at the balls close up, knead the insides of their thighs like bread dough. Really love the cock, and you’ll get to know it more, and he’ll feel seen. It’s very tantric.
Elle: I’d say challenge yourself to do something totally different from what you currently do, in an open communication style, a talk before, yes/no questions during, and a debrief after: “What did you like about that?” You might be surprised, some men like teeth. It becomes a curious, fun play session, like a little date night. That after-debrief is the most important part.
Annette: Beautifully said. Thank you both. Where can people find you?
Elle: Find us on Instagram at girlsgonedeepod, our website girlsgonedeep.com, and email girlsgonedeep@gmail. Follow us on Instagram, we put up polls and include your answers in our podcast. And find our podcast anywhere you listen.
Annette: Thank you both so much. And to my listeners, I’ll see you in the locker room. Cheers.

